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seeking recommendation on GT200 gearing
Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:58 pm
by Davidsquaredson
Hey,
My GT is on stock Jet200 gearing:
primary drive: 46/15
1st gear: 12.52: 1
2nd gear: 8.76: 1
3rd gear: 6.30: 1
4th gear: 4.82: 1
28mm Dellorto, breathsweet foam filter + PM tuning Evo pipe.
Pulls like its possessed up through 3rd gear and when I shift into 4th acceleration drops off dramatically. I have digital speedo so I can give RPM where each gear maxes out if that helps.
What should it ideally be?
Thanks in advance
David
Re: seeking recommendation on GT200 gearing
Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:48 pm
by holty
I think your pipe is the problem, pm is a revvy pipe but your final drive ratio is better for a pipe that makes more torque, tsr evo or a fresco comes to mind, choice of pipe and final drive ratio go hand in hand. only other option is to get a bigger crownwheel.
Re: seeking recommendation on GT200 gearing
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:46 pm
by Adam_Winstone
holty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:48 pm
I think your pipe is the problem, pm is a revvy pipe but your final drive ratio is better for a pipe that makes more torque, tsr evo or a fresco comes to mind, choice of pipe and final drive ratio go hand in hand. only other option is to get a bigger crownwheel.
... good response and almost certainly the issue.
Re: seeking recommendation on GT200 gearing
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 7:31 pm
by Davidsquaredson
Adam_Winstone wrote:holty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:48 pm
I think your pipe is the problem, pm is a revvy pipe but your final drive ratio is better for a pipe that makes more torque, tsr evo or a fresco comes to mind, choice of pipe and final drive ratio go hand in hand. only other option is to get a bigger crownwheel.
... good response and almost certainly the issue.
Thanks. So my final drive is 4.8 now, and it would be better at 4.9 with a 47 tooth CW?
Also, I have a bgm big box clubman on another scooter I could put on this one, what would be the correct final drive rAtio for that?
Tx
David
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Re: seeking recommendation on GT200 gearing
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:17 pm
by rosscla
4.9 might be a bit better but ideally you might want to drop it to 5.2 with that pipe.
The clubman might be a good choice on 4.8 what have you got to loose (other than an hour or two) by trying it.
Re: seeking recommendation on GT200 gearing
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:52 pm
by Doom Patrol
There's nothing wrong with the gearing. The Jet pulled it okay with a 20mm carb and standard exhaust. Like others have said, it's probably the exhaust that's the issue.
Re: seeking recommendation on GT200 gearing
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 2:13 am
by Davidsquaredson
Tx. Gearing is the only part of the engine I'm not that familiar with. I got offered the PM pipe at 1/3 the price of new so just tried it. Before I do anything else I'll throw the BB clubman on and see how it behaves.
David
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Re: seeking recommendation on GT200 gearing
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:33 pm
by Burnside
Davidsquaredson wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 7:31 pm
Adam_Winstone wrote:holty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:48 pm
I think your pipe is the problem, pm is a revvy pipe but your final drive ratio is better for a pipe that makes more torque, tsr evo or a fresco comes to mind, choice of pipe and final drive ratio go hand in hand. only other option is to get a bigger crownwheel.
... good response and almost certainly the issue.
Thanks. So my final drive is 4.8 now, and it would be better at 4.9 with a 47 tooth CW?
Also, I have a bgm big box clubman on another scooter I could put on this one, what would be the correct final drive rAtio for that?
Tx
David
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I'm pulling 4.6 with my GT200 and BGM clubman, Li150 46/17 so it should pull 4.8 comfortably
Re: seeking recommendation on GT200 gearing
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:50 pm
by sean brady scooters
one of the chiselspeed /adspeed pipes would work well and pull that gearing ..if they still do them ...check with martin for advice though
Re: seeking recommendation on GT200 gearing
Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 3:31 pm
by Davidsquaredson
Advice I have been given is Franspeed Race is ideal if it's >200cc, but the Supertourer is a better match for 200cc and my gearbox.
David
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