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Drive side seal not air tight

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:38 am
by alanscottj
I have put an engine together with new seals from BeedSpeed, done a leak down test and the mag side seal is not air tight, air is escaping through the Cush drive. Any advice? Suggestions of a better seal?

Re: Drive side seal not air tight

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:41 am
by phil23fair
Did you fit the halite washer as well as the oil seal?

Re: Drive side seal not air tight

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:46 am
by alanscottj
phil23fair wrote:Did you fit the halite washer as well as the oil seal?
I did yes 8-)

Re: Drive side seal not air tight

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:47 am
by Chris in Margate
Sadly you've got to do it again with new oil seal because that one is probably now suspect. Lots of oil, some put grease and rotate crank slowly as pulling in.
Probably the very worst design on the Lambretta engine !

Re: Drive side seal not air tight

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:50 am
by Agent Buchwald
It might be worth checking that the Hallite washer is being compressed enough - they come in different thicknesses and the gap varies.

Re: Drive side seal not air tight

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:52 am
by alanscottj
Agent Buchwald wrote:It might be worth checking that the Hallite washer is being compressed enough - they come in different thicknesses and the gap varies.
Cheers guys, I'll strip it and start again :roll: I have another seal I'll give that a go with a new halite washer.

Re: Drive side seal not air tight

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 11:15 am
by bristolmod
can get quite tight in that area- replaced my D/S seal earlier in the year and had problems with the plate then touching the crank. Halite washer was too thick.

Also make sure the plate isn't warped.

Chris

Re: Drive side seal not air tight

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:08 pm
by alanscottj
Am I not right in thinking that it is the seal that would be letting air out, not the hallite washer?

Re: Drive side seal not air tight

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 4:49 pm
by HxPaul
The halite washer stops air from leaking out and oil from entering into the combustion area from the gearbox between the crankcase and the side of the bearing.

Re: Drive side seal not air tight

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 6:47 pm
by wack 63
A lot of Halite washers are crap nowadays and barely compress so I machine the back of the drive plate to make the step deeper. If you fit the drive plate without a seal then measure the gap between the step and bearing with feeler gauges you will then know what the gasket will compress to. Also don't take it for granted the bearing outertrack is air tight in the casing.